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  • couldn't think of a good title


    Rules

    Preparation time is given to each combatant for both rounds. But only sufficient prep-time to gather every single thing in their arsenal, and to be at their highest peak granted within that round. That means, NEITHER side will have prior knowledge of each other in ANY round. This will be treated as if they were strangers entirely, so neither side knows of the others' strengths nor weaknesses.

    Both sides will be in-character unless otherwise stated, but willing to kill should they be forced into such a situation (one is willing to kill regardless).

    If nothing is specified in the "Additional Conditions," use Standard Battle Assumptions.

    Methods For Victory:

    1. BFR of over 2 weeks.
    2. Incapacitation of over 1 week.
    3. Death.

    Finally, the last rule: put some thought and good reasoning into your answers. Don't just put "Fawful/Sonic via hax." Put some effort into it, otherwise, I will not count your vote.


    Profiles Used

    Sonic

    Fawful


    Rounds

    Classic Sonic VS Fawful MM875

    Additional Conditions

    • This is base Classic Sonic VS base Fawful.
    • Speed equalized.
    • Classic Super Sonic is banned.

    Super Sonic VS Dark Fawful MM875

    Additional Conditions

    • This is Modern Super Sonic VS Dark Fawful.
    • Fawful can use the Dark Star, but he is not allowed to fuse with it to become Dark Bowser.
    • Speed equalized.
    • Super Sonic has no time limit.

    Vote Tally

    Round 1:

    Sonic: 0

    Fawful: 1

    Inconclusive: 0

    Round 2:

    Super Sonic: 1

    Dark Fawful: 0

    Inconclusive: 0

    Overall Votes:

    Sonic: 0

    Fawful: 0

    Inconclusive: 1

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  • A battle between Frieza and Donkey Kong.

    Rules

    Both will be in character, but Donkey Kong will be willing to kill Frieza if necessary (Frieza would have no moral problems with killing Donkey Kong though).

    Frieza starts in his third form. Speed is equalized for this fight.

    Profiles Used

    Frieza

    Donkey Kong

    Rounds

    Frieza VS Donkey Kong

    Third Form Frieza VS Donkey Kong

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Frieza (Third Form) VS Donkey Kong.
    2. No prep time
    3. Both are Low 4-C.
    4. Speed Equalized.
    5. Donkey Kong cannot use Strong Kong.
    6. Frieza starts in his Third Form and cannot go beyond it.

    Final Form Frieza VS Donkey Kong

    Final Form Frieza VS Donkey Kong

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Frieza (Final Form) VS Donkey Kong.
    2. Both combatants get prep time, but only enough to gather everything in their arsenal.
    3. Donkey Kong can use Strong Kong and stay in that form as long as necessary.
    4. Speed Equalized.
    5. Frieza can go to his Final Form if needed, but no further.

    Vote Tally

    Round 1:

    • Frieza: 2
    • Donkey Kong: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 2:

    • Frieza: 0
    • Donkey Kong: 2
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Overall Votes

    • Frieza: 0
    • Donkey Kong: 0
    • Inconclusive: 2
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    Paleomario66
    Paleomario66 closed this thread because:
    Consensus reached.
    15:58, August 20, 2017
    • Round 1

      Well, this one's interesting. Overall, they're fairly close. Donkey Kong and Third Form Frieza are equal in terms of power, that's for sure. But Frieza might have a slight advantage, given that he's "At least Low 4-C" against DK's straight-up "Low 4-C." And while Donkey Kong has his weapons, most can be countered with a Ki Blast. For instance, homing coconuts, meet hot energy. So DK's weapons won't be very good in this case, besides Orange Grenades. Due to Frieza's overall personality, I doubt he'd suspect an orange the first time around. However, I will say that most of DK's tricks would only work once. Meanwhile, Frieza is, overall, the more dangerous here, with a possible slight lead in A.P. and his natural personality. In a ranged fight, DK would probably be able to overwhelm Frieza, considering he can randomly summon animals, missiles, barrels and fruits to harm the opposition, while Frieza only has an assortment of Ki-related attacks. However, in close range, it might be a lot more close. DK could fight using martial arts against Karate Kong who, as his name suggests, specializes in karate. At the same time, Frieza is, as his profile says, a martial arts master. My only problem here is DK's use of elements and Frieza's arrogance. After getting good hits, Frieza would laugh as if he'd already won. Even doing this only once can leave him open for even one attack--and given what attack that is, it could really hurt. Bongo Donkey Kong would do a terrible number on him should it make contact. Overall, it's really tough. DK has the ranged advantage and stalemates Frieza in terms of close-up, and has a few techniques that could get the best of Frieza as well as less arrogance, against Frieza's slight advantage in A.P., natural willingness to kill and his hax (weird saying that--a Dragon Ball character having the hax advantage over a Mario character). But here's what I think...

      Frieza's regeneration, due to the two being so close in terms of power, could really allow him to win this. Depending on what Kong uses during Frieza's "open moments," it could go either way. But since DK is behind in overall power, Frieza's durability should allow him to survive the attack with some severed limbs, which he can regenerate. And while Frieza is arrogant, he's shown that he usually learns after a few repetitions. I'd give it to Frieza in a really close fight.

      Round 2

      This one's a bit harder... Frieza is 4-C in his Final Form, but Strong Kong is invincible. Overall, since DK was already really close to 4-C, Strong Kong should be able to tank Frieza's full-force without much trouble, and he should be able to deal out just as much as Frieza, if not more. While hax is still in Frieza's favor, he never really had anything that would counter something like Strong Kong. And unlike the last round, he can't really afford to be arrogant here. I'd give it to Donkey Kong with a little bit of difficulty, should Frieza be able to regenerate.

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    • Going with Metal's reasons for my vote.

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    • Okay, I will add yours then.

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  • It's a battle between two famed reality warping psychopaths. The clown and the triangle.


    Rules

    Preparation time is given to each combatant. But only sufficient prep-time to gather every single thing in their arsenal, and to be at their highest peak granted within that round. That means, NEITHER side will have prior knowledge of each other in ANY round. This will be treated as if they were strangers entirely, so neither side knows of the others' strengths nor weaknesses.

    Both sides will be in-character unless otherwise stated, but willing to kill should they be forced into such a situation (or in this case, willing to kill for the hell of it).

    If nothing is specified in the "Additional Conditions," use Standard Battle Assumptions.

    Methods For Victory:

    1. BFR of over 2 weeks.
    2. Incapacitation of over 1 week.
    3. Death.

    Finally, the last rule: put some thought and good reasoning into your answers. Don't just put "Dimentio via attack potency" or "Bill Cipher via hax." Put some effort into it, otherwise, I will not count your vote.


    Profiles Used

    Dimentio

    Bill Cipher


    Rounds

    Dimentio VS Bill Cipher MM875

    Additional Conditions

    • This is base Dimentio VS Unrestricted Bill Cipher.
    • Only one round this time. The two don't have a lot outside of these two forms that are close in power, and nobody else has made a Bill Cipher profile, so it's just one go. Win or lose.
    • Dimentio is allowed to have the Dark Prognosticus, but no Chaos Heart.

    Vote Tally

    Dimentio: 1

    Bill Cipher: 0

    Inconclusive: 0

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  • Mario Artwork - Super Mario 3D World
    VSLink4 (1)VS
    Super Sonic Modern Render


    Profiles used:

    Mario

    Link

    Sonic

    High 4-C tiers will be used.

    Bloodlust: On

    Location: Earth

    Method of Victory: Death

    Prep time: 1 week

    Speed: Equalized

    Who wins and why?


    Mario: 2

    Link: 0

    Sonic: 0

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    • Here's what I think.

      3. Super Sonic - By what's been explained above, it seems Super Sonic peaks at 4-C in this fight. He doesn't have any useful hax to help him make a comeback of any sort, and he doesn't really have any other advantages. Overall, he'll be the first one down.

      2. Link - Oh boy, this one's interesting. Link and Mario seem to have very similar hax--time travel with a certain item, transmutation, time manipulation, and they both have hax the other doesn't, like Link's sound manipulation and Mario's metal manipulation. The two's hax fall into a dead stalemate. This leads us to have to decide with sheer stats. Speed is equalized, but Mario has means of increasing his speed by great numbers, so the speed advantage, in short bursts, would go to him. Mario also seems to be more intelligent, and the most important one--he seems to hit a lot harder. Large Star level (Link) VS Large Star level+ (Mario). This means Mario is several hundreds of times stronger, and the attack potency page only says someone needs to be 120x stronger to burst their foe to paste. This is what happens to Link here.

      1. Mario - For what's been said, I'd give this to Mario.

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    • Nice explaination Metal I count your vote as well XD

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  • A multi-round Mario Bros. VS Dragon Ball thread.


    Rules

    Preparation time is given to each combatant in every round, but only enough prep-time to gather every single thing in their arsenal, and to be at their highest peak granted within that round. That means, NEITHER side will have prior knowledge of each other in ANY round. This will be treated as if they were strangers entirely, so neither side knows of the others' strengths nor weaknesses.

    Both sides will be in-character unless otherwise stated, but willing to kill should they be forced into such a situation.

    If nothing is specified in the "Additional Conditions," use Standard Battle Assumptions.

    Methods For Victory:

    1. BFR of over 2 weeks.
    2. Incapacitation of over 1 week.
    3. Death.

    Finally, the last rule: put some thought and good reasoning into your answers. Don't just put simple reasons like "Mario via hax" or "Goku via Attack Potency." Put some effort into it, otherwise, I will not count your vote.


    Profiles Used (unless stated otherwise)

    Bowser

    Broly

    Son Goten

    Luigi

    Mario

    Kid Buu

    Son Goku

    Vegeta

    Vegito

    Beerus

    Zen’ō


    Rounds

    Bowser VS Broly

    Bowser VS Broly

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Standard/2-D Bowser VS Broly.
    2. Bowser is at 3-B.
    3. Speed Equalized.
    4. Broly starts in his Legendary Super Saiyan form

    Son Goten VS Luigi

    Son Goten VS Luigi

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Goten VS Luigi in the Sports Games.
    2. Goten starts off in base, but he can go Super Saiyan.

    MP Mario VS Kid Buu

    Mario Party Mario VS Kid Buu

    Additional Conditions

    1. MP Mario is at his 4-A tier.
    2. Speed equalized.

    Mario VS God Goku

    Standard Mario VS God Goku

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Standard/2-D Mario VS Super Saiyan God Goku.
    2. Mario is at his 3-B tier.
    3. Speed equalized.
    4. Goku is from the anime
    5. Goku stays in his SSG form as long as he needs to.

    SMG Mario VS DBS Goku

    Galaxy Mario VS Dragon Ball Super Goku

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Galaxy Mario VS Universe Survival Arc Goku.
    2. Takes place just before Tournament of Power

    Mario and Luigi VS Goku and Vegeta

    Galaxy Mario and Luigi VS Dragon Ball Super Goku and Vegeta

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Galaxy Mario and Luigi VS Universe Survival Arc Goku and Vegeta.
    2. Mario and Goku are with Luigi and Vegeta in this round.
    3. The same rules as Round 5 apply to this one. Everything from SMG and Dragon Ball Super can be used (all weaponry, forms, etc.) That means Bros. Attacks are allowed, as well, and Goku and Vegeta can use the Potarra Fusion to become Vegito.

    M&L Mario VS DBS Goku

    M&L Mario VS Dragon Ball Super Goku

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is M&L Mario VS Universe Survival Arc Goku.
    2. Takes place just before Tournament of Power
    3. Speed unequalized (to make this an Attack Potency VS Speed matchup)

    Grand Star Bowser VS Beerus

    Grand Star Bowser VS Beerus

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Grand Star Bowser VS Beerus.
    2. Takes place just before Tournament of Power

    Mario VS Zen-Oh

    Super Mario Sunshine Mario VS Zen’ō

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Super Mario Sunshine Mario VS Zen’ō.
    2. Zen’ō has Infinite Speed.
    3. Both combatants are bloodlusted. They won't settle for BFR or incapacitation--only death.

    Vote Tally

    Round 1:

    • Bowser: 2
    • Broly: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 2:

    • Son Goten: 0
    • Luigi: 2
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 3:

    • Mario: 2
    • Kid Buu: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 4:

    • Mario: 2
    • SSG Goku: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 5:

    • Mario: 2
    • DBS Goku: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 6:

    • Mario and Luigi: 2
    • DBS Goku and Vegeta: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 7:

    • M&L Mario: 2
    • DBS Goku: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 8:

    • Grand Star Bowser: 2
    • Beerus: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 9:

    • Mario: 2
    • Zen’ō : 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Overall Votes

    • Mario-verse: 2
    • Dragon Ball-verse: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0
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    • And thank you, also. :)

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    • I'm going with Metal's reasonings for my vote.

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  • Just saying, I'll be offline for six days within one day. The location where I'm going to has absolutely no internet, so I won't be on or see any activity unless I go on mobile data for a minute.

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  • The ultimate Mario (red) VS Sonic (blue) thread.


    Rules

    Preparation time is given to each combatant in each and every round. But only sufficient prep-time to gather every single thing in their arsenal, and to be at their highest peak granted within that round. That means, NEITHER side will have prior knowledge of each other in ANY round. This will be treated as if they were strangers entirely, so neither side knows of the others' strengths nor weaknesses.

    Both sides will be in-character unless otherwise stated, but willing to kill should they be forced into such a situation.

    If nothing is specified in the "Additional Conditions," use Standard Battle Assumptions.

    Methods For Victory:

    1. BFR of over 2 weeks.
    2. Incapacitation of over 1 week.
    3. Death.

    Finally, the last rule: put some thought and good reasoning into your answers. Don't just put "Mario via attack potency" or "Sonic via speed." Put some effort into it, otherwise, I will not count your vote.


    Profiles Used

    Mario

    Sonic

    Luigi

    Tails


    Rounds

    Mario VS Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Standard Mario VS base Modern Sonic.

    Classic Mario VS Classic Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is 2-D Mario VS base Classic Sonic.
    2. 2-D Mario is at his Low 4-C tier.
    3. Classic Super Sonic is allowed.

    DiC Mario VS DiC Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is DiC Mario VS DiC Sonic.
    2. Speed equalized.

    MP Mario VS SX Super Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Mario Party Mario VS Sonic X Super Sonic.
    2. MP Mario is at his 4-A tier.
    3. Super Sonic has no time limit.
    4. Speed equalized.

    Galaxy Mario VS Super Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Galaxy Mario VS Modern Super Sonic.
    2. Super Sonic has no time limit.
    3. Speed equalized.

    64 Mario VS Excalibur Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Mario 64 Mario VS Excalibur Sonic.
    2. Speed equalized.

    Paper Mario (Pure Hearts) VS Post-Genesis Archie Super Sonic (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. This is Paper Mario w/ the Pure Hearts VS Post-Genesis Archie Super Sonic.
    2. Both combatants are bloodlusted. They won't settle for BFR or incapacitation--only death.

    Mario & Luigi VS Sonic & Tails (MM875)

    Additional Conditions

    1. Mario and Sonic are given the help of Luigi and Tails in this round.
    2. Everything for both sides is included. ALL keys are allowed to be used, as well as all weaponry, forms, etc. That means Bros. Attacks are allowed, as well.

    This round is a unique one. It's completely optional, and will only count to the vote total if a significant number of people decide to do it.

    Additional Conditions

    1. Mario and Sonic are given the help of Luigi and Tails in this round, too.
    2. You've had to use my profiles. Now, use yours.
    3. The characters are given access to everything from your profiles for them. If you don't have any profile for them, then skip this round when voting.
    4. Speed equalized.

    Vote Tally

    Round 1:

    • Mario: 2
    • Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 2:

    • Mario: 2
    • Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 3:

    • Mario: 0
    • Sonic: 2
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 4:

    • Mario: 0
    • Super Sonic: 2
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 5:

    • Mario: 2
    • Super Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 6:

    • Mario: 2
    • Excalibur Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 7:

    • Paper Mario: 2
    • Super Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Round 8:

    • Mario & Luigi: 2
    • Sonic & Tails: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Bonus Round:

    • Mario & Luigi: 1
    • Sonic & Tails: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0

    Overall Votes

    • Mario: 2
    • Sonic: 0
    • Inconclusive: 0
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    Metal Mario875
    Metal Mario875 closed this thread because:
    Consensus Reached
    05:30, August 15, 2017
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    • Metal Mario875:

      Thanks.


      Sega:

      Sega step up your game! Nintendo is kicking your ass and you are subjecting to it XD

      This is what you get for listening to the atrocious Sonic fanboys who don't know what they want! 

      You tried to overthrow Nintendo in a console war and you failed miserably so live with it and since you don't listen to reasonable Sonic fans like me for asking you to make Sonic more OP then you will reap what you sow lol 

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    • Welp, until in the future someone recreates this using my profiles, I think this has been settled. I'm adding the results and closing it. :)

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  • No prep time.

    Saiyan saga vegeta evolution of the saiyans by lightningbarer-d9noox3 VS Shadow Forces Render by Nibroc-Rock

    Round 1: Base Vegeta VS Base Shadow

    Vegeta oozaru by maffo1989-d4u77em VS Shadowunleashed

    Round 2: Oozaru Vegeta VS Shadow without Inhibitor Rings

    Who wins and why?

    Round 1 Votes

    Vegeta: 0

    Shadow: 2

    Round 2 Votes

    Vegeta: 0

    Shadow: 2

    Overall Votes

    Vegeta: 0

    Shadow: 2

    Tied: 0

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    Paleomario66
    Paleomario66 closed this thread because:
    Consensus reached.
    12:24, August 15, 2017
    • Round 1:

      Shadow via Chaos Control

      Round 2: 

      Shadow via Chaos Blast

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    • Round 1:

      Oh boy, this one's close. The two's A.P. are practically equals, being on a very low-end of 5-A. However, Shadow is FTL and Vegeta is Relativistic, so Shadow speedblitzes. Even assuming that this was speed equalized, Shadow's hax like BFR and Time/Space Manipulation. Saiyan Saga Vegeta never encountered something as complex as Shadow, so Shadow's entire arsenal of spatial distortions, time slowing, etc. is going to be completely new to him. Meanwhile, what does Vegeta have that Shadow hasn't seen? Telekinesis is countered by Shadow's ability to defeat Silver, despite the latter having Psychokinesis (basically strong telekinesis), and practically all of Vegeta's martial artistry and energy attacks are things Shadow's dealt with in Sonic, Emerl and Mephiles. Overall, there's just not anything Vegeta has that's concrete over Shadow, but the latter has stuff.

      Round 2:

      This one's interesting. Yeah, Shadow's abysmal stamina will run out quickly, thus, making it the last round, but with only Vegeta stronger. However, again, speed. FTL+ VS Relativistic. Even equalized, if you look at the differences, overall, Oozaru Vegeta never demonstrated anything ground-breakingly impressive in terms of an increase in stats. At least, not in comparison to Shadow, whose power without the Inhibitor Rings is amplified by so much, he can run through an army of Mephileses... which are equals to base Shadow. Shadow's hax in this form are drastically increased, and his Chaos Blast ability would undoubtedly be able to finish Vegeta.

      Overall, my vote goes to Shadow.

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    • I think there's a consensus here, so I'm adding the results.

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  • Beerus render VS Vegetto ssj blue by naironkr-dami2nw

    Battle takes place on the Tournament of Power Aren in the World of Void. No prep time.

    Round 1: DBS Anime Counterparts

    Round 2: DBS Manga Counterparts

    Who wins and why?

    Round 1 Votes

    Beerus: 1

    Vegito Blue: 0

    Round 2 Votes

    Beerus: 1

    Vegito Blue: 0

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  • Mario Artwork - Super Mario 3D World
    NotAMarioFan pic lol


           



                   VS




    Both are in character and their 3-C tiers are being used.

    Standard Keys are being used.

    Battle takes place in the Mushroom Kingdom.

    Method of Victory is Death.

    Both have prep time.

    Who wins and why?

    Profiles being used and vote count:

    Mario: 2

    Luigi: 0

    Inconclusive: 0

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    • Well, in-character is naturally going to make both of them very hesitant on inflicting harm on one another. They do love each other, despite what theories say, lol.

      Still. With that said, Mario is simply far more willing to kill than Luigi is. Mario is naturally braver and, while both are brash, Mario makes quick-on-the-draw decisions, while Luigi's decisions are more along the lines of giving up. Specifically, should he fight Mario. If they're in a sibling fight at the moment, which is what I can see happening, then Luigi'll be fine. But so will Mario. Overall, simple personality constraints already lean this in Mario's favor.

      Next: prep-time is allowed. This means they both had time to gather power-ups and weaponry, right? In that case, Mario should win this handily. He's got a lot more experience, as we know. He uses his power-ups in every game (which are far more plentiful than Luigi), unlike his brother, who likes to swap out. Overall, Mario simply knows his power-ups far better than Luigi does. Luigi's intangibility with the Power Flower? Mario already knows how it works, since he's had the Vanish Cap. Overall, anything Luigi throws at Mario, Mario can counter via knowledge alone. Their profiles even state Mario's smarter.

      Sure, they're small advantages. But experience and prep-time allow Mario to take this rather comfortably. Luigi will still give him a run, of course, as once he runs out of power-ups, he's still not, like, immediately out. And their stats are all around the same areas. But overall, I gotta give this to Mario.

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    • I count your vote Metal

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    • I'm going with Mario, mostly because of Metal's reasons. Another thing I'd like to add, not only can Mario counter some of Luigi's powerups (like the Power Flower), he has a few extra powerups Luigi does not, like the Metal Cap, which should give him an even greater advantage agaisnt Luigi.

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    • Seems reasonable I count your vote too Paleo

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